Date: 2008-05-12 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] outsidetherain.livejournal.com
Holy fucking shit.

How I wish there was some way to help that girl's mother flee to complete safety. I was in tears by the time I got to her part of the interview.
:(

Date: 2008-05-12 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starrchilde.livejournal.com
I sent the article to Ras and he brought up something I hadn't even considered before now...

Ras: I also don't see how people can not see that eventually there will be a war for domination of the world between people like that and the rest of us

Ras: I mean if it can turn a father with no history of violence into a sadistic murderer who can kill his own daughter for "Honor" because his daughter dared talk to a foreigner, how can we possibly expect to live in peace with them?

It's a sobering and frightening thought.

Date: 2008-05-12 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluestocking7.livejournal.com
It is just insane that women are still being "honor murdered" and that men think this is not only okay, but a GOOD IDEA!

I have no words.

Date: 2008-05-12 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubheach.livejournal.com
Actually "Dad" said he'd take out his sons if they weren't honorable too.

Date: 2008-05-12 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pooklaroux.livejournal.com
You know years ago I tried talking about this kind of culture with a woman who had adopted Islam in this country along with her American born African husband. She told me I didn't know what I was talking about, and that women are not mistreated or discriminated against in muslim countries. She told me I was prejudiced, and that my prejudiced eye cast a jaundice on a perfectly equitable, enlightened culture that I simply did not understand. And I should not talk about things that I do not know about.

Yeah. Right.

Well, my personal family history involves a family member who tried to strangle me to death, and so I think I can say something about women being murdered by family members. It's wrong. There isn't a cultural premise in the world that can justify murder. I don't know what we can do, because as long as a group of some people agree that these "honor killings" are okay, it's going to happen.

Date: 2008-05-12 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] durgablue.livejournal.com
Ah yes, fucking "honor killings", I've been hearing about them for some time now...will someone explain to me how the Koran evidently proclaims murdering is wrong, but yet it's OK to brutally murder a woman because she supposedly "dishonors" her family?

It begs the question, What Would Sekhmet/Nanaja/Kali/Ishtar/Durga Do?

Date: 2008-05-12 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peradouro.livejournal.com
Yep, I always say real evil exists but it's all people. Who needs to believe in demons and hell when we have folks like this?

Date: 2008-05-12 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] folkchick3.livejournal.com
There are no words for this... only tears.
Edited Date: 2008-05-12 10:51 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-05-13 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magnacarta13.livejournal.com
There are good Muslims, and there are whacko Muslims. Never mistake that. This father and his sons fall under the latter title. No good person, no truly good person, can kill someone because of personal humiliation. No god calls that anything other than selfishness. That's why there's god, and then there are masculine, created texts about God, called "scripture". And, frankly, never the twain shall meet.

Date: 2008-05-13 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nishar.livejournal.com
These people may live in the 21 century, but their mindset is still in the 8th century.

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